FS22 - Am I Missing Something? - GIANTS Software (2024)

Hey Farmers!

Just to preface this, I'm brand new to the game. I can't explain why it's so addicting / good but I bought it last Thursday and already have a little over 100 hours into it. Don't judge me.

Essentially my entire experience so far has been on a multiplayer map with half a dozen friends. Some of us are learning together while one of us is a bit more experienced than the rest. That being said, we (and I) still have questions. . . . mostly around the economy and how to make some good money.

For reference, we play on a 1 day month cycle, in real time, and on a "normal" economy setting. I have one field for grass, one field for wheat (that I will eventually try to make bread with through a bakery) and I've recently invested into a large sheep pen and 4 greenhouses.

The sheep pen holds 300 sheep. Over the past few "months" they have collectively produced 604L of wool. I understand that this can be turned into fabric which can then be turned into clothes. All 4 greenhouses are producing lettuce. In the same "few months" of running, they've only produced a total of ~960L of lettuce.

When we check the Prices tab we notice it displays value based on a "per 1000L" market. Wool currently has a value of $2,297 per 1000L and lettuce has a value of $2,565 per 1000L

So..... what am I missing here? This doesn't seem like a lot or I'm doing something wrong? Do I need to up the work / bulk? Instead of 300 sheep, make it 1,200 sheep? Instead of 4 green houses make it 12? 16? Or am I going about this completely wrong / misunderstanding something. It just seems that, with what I currently have, making ~$4,800 around every 2 - 4 "months" doesn't seem like a whole lot of money. Some clarification and education would be greatly appreciated.

FarmingSimulatro 22 the economy is full of oddities, I don't know why the income doesn't meet the expenses.

If we think about real life and there is a machine or field purchases, then the purchase of machines is financed with a machine loan. Which is almost always a 5-year period, i.e. 60 months long.

When buying land, the loan period is usually 10-15 years.

But in the FS22 game... I can't even describe how special a point of view they are implemented. L O L =)

Congratulations on starting the game, 100h is already a good number =)

During the first month, I played 550 hours (in 30 days) =), now total is 3000h (bye 12-2021)

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For sheep:
depending on age and map (animal data can be different per map) 300 sheep will produce about 12000 liters max of wool per month as default value.
So either you have very young sheep or map data is different from base game.

For greenhouses:
production is shown in the menu. Even 4 small greenhouses should have produced a lot more lettuce in a few months.

Which map are you playing on? Maybe it was all changed for higher realism?

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Eische wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:35 pmWhich map are you playing on? Maybe it was all changed for higher realism?

We're currently playing on "The Western Wilds". The ease of rectangles was suggested for learning purposes. We're also, if it makes any difference, running our "own farm". We each have about 7 plots (rectangles) of land to our selves to manage.

Our current settings are:

• Timescale: Real Time
• Economic Difficulty: Normal
• Seasonal Growth: No
• Days Per Month: 1 Day
• Crop Destruction, Periodic Plowing Required, Fieldstone, Lime Required, and Weeds: All of these are set to Off

If there are any other settings to contribute to the difficulty of the game / economy, I'm not sure what or where they're at.

Eische wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:35 pmFor sheep:
depending on age and map (animal data can be different per map) 300 sheep will produce about 12000 liters max of wool per month as default value.
So either you have very young sheep or map data is different from base game.

The sheep were purchased at what I can only imagine is "new born"? They were 0 months in age. They're now 3 months in age.

Eische wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:35 pmFor greenhouses:
production is shown in the menu. Even 4 small greenhouses should have produced a lot more lettuce in a few months.

I have 4 Large Greenhouses all producing lettuce. Right now each one has only produced 179L.

For sheep:
Yeah that explains your small amount of wool. With such a low age, sheeps produce pretty much no wool at all. Starting with age of 18 month they are at max production.

For greenhouses:
That's weird. If you are using base game greenhouses, you should have way more lettuce.
Make sure you have them set correctly. You can set them to distribute, sell and keep. If set to sell, products will be sold at the end of each day/month. Distribute will submit products to other productions you own if they need them as input. Only with keep, your storage will fill up and pallets will appear in front of your greenhouses.
I suppose you have a sufficient water supply?

As you are new to the game:
https://www.farming-simulator.com/newsA ... ews_id=280

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Eische wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:09 pmFor sheep:
Yeah that explains your small amount of wool. With such a low age, sheeps produce pretty much no wool at all. Starting with age of 18 month they are at max production.

Oh. That's definitely good to know. Didn't realize it would have a progression system but it makes sense. Everything else has a progression system lol.

Eische wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:09 pmFor greenhouses:
That's weird. If you are using base game greenhouses, you should have way more lettuce.
Make sure you have them set correctly. You can set them to distribute, sell and keep. If set to sell, products will be sold at the end of each day/month. Distribute will submit products to other productions you own if they need them as input. Only with keep, your storage will fill up and pallets will appear in front of your greenhouses.
I suppose you have a sufficient water supply?

The greenhouses are base game large ones. $10,000 each. They are also set to "Storing". For the water, all of them were filled via a tank. There's plenty of water in each of them, currently sitting ~16,000L in each of them.

Eische wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:09 pmAs you are new to the game:
https://www.farming-simulator.com/newsA ... ews_id=280

. . . Thanks. That's a lot of information lol.

For greenhouses:
which value are you looking at?
When set to storing, the internal storage will build up until there is enough produced to create a pallet. Once a pallet is spawned outside, the internal storage will drop by the amount of content inside the pallet.
How much pallets are outside? Each lettuce pallet holds 500 liters.
So if total production per greenhouse was 5390 liters, there should be 10 pallets outside and 390 liters shown in menu as storage.

The pallet area outside only holds a certain amount of pallets. Once there is no room anymore the internal storage will fill up until you move pallets out of the marked area.

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I am looking at the Production Chain screen for each of the greenhouses. As of this post, they're all sitting at 188 liters and set to "Storing" but they also all have 4 pallets outside able to be picked up. So, in actuality, I currently have 8,752 liters of lettuce (4 pallets outside each greenhouse. 2,000 liters per greenhouse + the 188 "inside" each greenhouse). At the current price, on our server, that's a total value of $21,959 (rounded to the nearest dollar)

These greenhouses are 3 months "old". My original curiosity stemmed from this observation. Is ~$22,000 for 3 months of work on par for this game's average economy? With your comparison to real life, that a decent paycheck for 3 months of work, lol, but we're talking about a game here. Is the intent of the game to be played for the long term? Just managing a farm year, after year, after year, in game?

Yeah that makes sense then. I don't have the exact numbers in my head, but those 8700 liters in about 3 months sound good.

Please do not try to compare the game to reality.
There are a lot of players here that changed many things to come closer to reality, but in the end it is still a game. A lot of things are not financially balanced against each other. But this no problem at all as the game does not want to be a farmings financials simulator.

You can play the game as long as you want to. Once you have found a map you want to stay on, why not?
This game offers a lot of different play styles. Some players just stay in a certain role, for example small dairy farm and will never touch productions or other things. Other players start with pigs, do forestry, step into hay business and going deep into productions.
Feel free to explore and find your own way to have fun.

For me, the game offers a good way to relax and calm down after a stressful day. So I don't care about financials. Maybe I'm in the mood for harvest or just want to cut down trees. I just do what I like to do.

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Eische wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:28 amPlease do not try to compare the game to reality.

I mistakenly thought you were the one who mentioned a comparison to real life earlier in this thread. I apologize for not verifying before mentioning it.

I can relate to the sentiment, though. It's a good learning experience so far and I'm actually excited to see what comes of it in the coming months as we continue to learn the game and play together. I appreciate all the information and help you've given so far in this thread. Thank you. =)

GrimGandalf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:12 pmYou are feeding your sheep correct? I didn't see it on here, but they will require grass or hay. Quite a bit for 300. As already mentioned you will get a lot of wool every month for that many sheep. Might I suggest turning that wool into fabric once it gets rolling.

Yes. I am feeding the sheep and you are correct - 300 is a lot! They are very hungry and thirsty creatures lol. I also have a spinnery and clothes shop set up ready to go. I'm looking forward to the sheep maturing to 18 months to see how much they can really put out.

I did mention the comparison to reality earlier.
But you have to go extensive ways to bring this game to reflect reality in all aspects. There are many mods out there that add a certain amount of realism. There are maps that adjust crop yields to the respective region and featuring more realistic animal data.
I recommend to look at that once you got familiar with the defaults.

In the past I went and setup one savegame to reflect reality as best it is possible. Long story short, I had no fun playing it.
It ended up being a grind if I wanted to get into a new business or simply wanted to upgrade machinery. And I hate grinding.
Now I play with certain amount of realism involved and don't care about financials anymore. For me it is the perfect combination. But everyone is different, so you have to find your way.

Playing on PC - Win10
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How to upload pictures
Please report bugs for FS22 using the bugtracker

First off Welcome to the game and the forum.

Much of your enjoyment to the game is about having a play philososphy. The game is flexible enough to permit may types of play. Some just want to relax plowing a field after a long day at work. Others want to hire workers to do everything and just manage their stupidity. (which is abundant.)

For me I like to solve problems. I will start using a feature just to figure it out and optimize how to use it. In my ideal game you would get benefits for having a well rounded economy. Making sure you provide as many crops to the market as possible. So I do almost everything. Some things are deemed a waste of my time since there are other easier ways to do it. Example. There is a DLC that has a grape vine harvester that has a spout that drops the grapes into a trailer on the next row. But in order to use this you must drive one of the vehicles yourself. Not my game style so I wont use that harvester.

Personally I only use livestock as an input to productions. I would never encourage someone to get into livestock to make money.
If you want to make money there are a few youtube videos with suggestions. Starting out I recommend contracts to get some cash. From a crop stand point the cash crops are Silage and wood chip. I will refrain from spoiling the fun of finding out the best combinations to do that.

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