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[ cheers and applause ] and the roots right there from philadelphia, pennsylvania. thank you for watching. stay tuned for "late night with seth meyers." goodnight everybody, bye bye! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- julia louis-dreyfus. star of "the gentlemen," actor theo james. an all-new "closer look." featuring the 8g band with tico torres. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] and now, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." we hope you're doing well. and now if you don't mind we're going to get to the news.

former president trump held an outdoor rally yesterday in las vegas, and temperatures exceeded 100 degrees. it was so bad trump began exhibiting symptoms of heat stroke ten years ago. [ laughter ] as temperatures reached over 100 degrees at his outdoor rally in las vegas, former president trump told the crowd that he was, quote, "up here sweating like a dog." and he was immediately shot by kristi noem. [ laughter and applause ] at the same rally, trump also said that he would eliminate taxes on tips for his servers and bartenders by not tipping. [ laughter ] in a new interview, dr. -- "i feel like they should give me 5%. [ laughter ] i mean, what a story, to wait on me." in a new interview, dr. phil asked former president trump how former first lady melania trump is doing, and trump said, quote, "i think good."

i -- [ light laughter ] "i think good"? that's not how you answer a question about how your wife is doing. that's how you answer a question about how your great aunt gloria is doing. i think good. i mean, i feel like i would have seen something on facebook if she died. [ light laughter ] in a new -- [ light laughter ] in a newly-released financial disclosure, supreme court justice ketanji brown jackson said that she received concert tickets from beyonce worth $3,700, which still only got her top level obstructed view. [ laughter ] it's like this. [ light laughter ] in the same disclosure, supreme court justice brett kavanaugh said that he received a $340,000 advance for the book he is currently writing from the good people at frommer's. [ audience ohs ] [ light laughter ] didn't get the graphic done in time? [ laughter ] i feel like in the end that's a

little unfair to the good people at frommer's. that we would imply that that was how [ bleep ] the cover of their book would look. [ light laughter ] sometimes they go, "there's one graphic that's not quite ready," and i'm always like, "i probably won't notice." [ laughter ] did they think i'd notice less if they went full frame? [ laughter ] tiny box, tiny box, tiny box, big! [ laughter ] all white, black letters. like it just came out of the printer. now they're all going to be [ bleep ] because i've been laying into them. they're just going to start switching them all out. french president emmanuel macron hosted a state dinner on saturday for president biden, which featured a four-course

meal with champagne and an 18-year-old bourdeaux. "that was a good year," said matt gaetz. [ audience oohs ] oh, a lot of bourdeaux fans. [ light laughter ] waffle house announced recently it will increase pay for its servers so they can finally afford rent and self-defense classes. [ laughter ] and finally, the u.s. coast guard has announced it has seized nearly 5,000 pounds of cocaine from a florida port, a huge relief for all the nearby boats carrying 10,000 pounds. [ laughter ] and that was the monologue, everybody. we're off, look at us! [ cheers and applause ] look at us on a monday. off and running. we have a great show for you tonight. she's won multiple emmys for her roles in "seinfeld," "the new adventures of old christine," and "veep." she currently stars in the film "tuesday," which is in theaters now. the one, the only, julia louis-dreyfus will be here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] you know him from "the white lotus" and "the time traveler's wife." he stars in "the gentleman," which is out now on netflix. theo james will also be joining us. [ cheers and applause ]

but before we get to all that, well, donald trump met with a probation officer today. that's a real thing that happened. the guy who has a 50/50 shot to become the next president had to check in with a probation officer to argue why he shouldn't go to jail. and on sunday, trump held his first large rally since his guilty verdict, where he laid out a detailed policy plan to tackle the nation's challenges, and i'm just kidding. he screamed about teleprompters, batteries, and sharks. [ light laughter ] for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: on sunday, trump held his first major rally since his historic guilty verdict on 34 counts of falsifying business record to hide a hush money payment to a p*rn star during a presidential campaign, and he made sure to talk about the topics that were on everybody's mind. >> and by the way, just in case you're wondering, i got no teleprompters, and i haven't from the beginning. no, i got no telepro -- you know, i pay all this money to teleprompter people, and i'd say 20% of the time, they don't work. they don't work. the thing is waving around. they can't tie it a little bit tighter. i'm trying to look at -- the only thing that pisses me off

are the teleprompters. i went to a boat company in south carolina. the boat -- i said, "how is it?" he said, "it's a problem, sir. they want us to make all electric boats." so i said, "let me ask you a question." and he said nobody ever asked this question. and it must be be 'cause of m.i.t. my relationship to mit, very smart. he goes -- i say, "what would happen if the boat sank from its weight, and you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there's a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there? so, there's a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here. do i get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. do i stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do i jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?" [ light laughter ] because i will tell you, he didn't know the answer. he said, "you know, nobody's ever asked me that question." [ laughter ] >> seth: there's -- there's a reason for that. [ laughter and applause ]

it sounds like -- [ applause ] i mean, imagine if he said, "you know, that's good, i get this all the time." [ laughter ] giant battery, shark ten yards away, sure, sure, sure. [ light laughter ] that sounds like a question from "math for dummies by dummies." a boat sinks to the bottom of the ocean, big boat, strong boat. [ laughter ] and there's a tremendously powerful battery ten yards away from the shark. the shark is woke and hates america. [ laughter ] the boat is sinking at a rate of three feet per second with a battery voltage no greater than 12. at the current rate, will the shark eat you before you're electrocuted, or will crooked joe rig the election? [ laughter ] wrong answers only. [ applause ] also, as much as i hate to say it, i agree with trump on one thing. i don't like teleprompters.

i pay all this money to teleprompter people, and i'd say 20% of the time, they don't work. the thing is waving around, and they can't tie it a little bit tighter? i mean, if telemprompters were even decent, do you think i would put up with cue card wally every day? >> ha-haha-haha! you're number one, seth. >> seth: ha-ha-ha-ha! you are, wally. lhhl now, as we explained last week, donald trump and his cronies have been complaining non-stop that he is somehow the victim of an unfair legal system supposedly weaponized against him by his political opponents. >> how could this happen? this is america. this is democracy. this isn't the soviet union. this isn't some banana republic. how can this happen? >> this is something you would expect to see in a third world country. >> we have to stand up and say, "we are not a third world country." >> i feel like this is even worse than any kind of banana republic or the soviet union. >> this is tyranny. this is not what's supposed to happen in america. >> would you think this is happening in a third world country? yeah, you would. >> reminiscent of banana republics or the soviet union. >> i mean, this is one step away from alexei navalny. >> you'd think that was the legal system of venezuela or iran or some third world country, not the

united states of america. >> communist show trial. you know, even north korea, even the former soviet union, went to a greater length to create the pretense of fairness. >> seth: why does stephen miller always talk like darth vader with a mouth full of peanut butter? [ laughter ] "i find your lack of faith disturbing." because, you know, if it wasn't for the way he talks, he seems like a real fun hang. [ laughter ] again, as we explained last week, the idea that trump is a victim of injustice is obviously ludicrous. trump got more deference and leeway than any criminal defendant in history. today, for example, he had a chance to make his case to a probation officer who will help determine what sentence he should get. >> trump is scheduled to sit for a virtual interview monday with a new york city probation officer. he will do it from mar-a-lago, we're told, along with his attorney, todd blanche. >> this probation meeting is to compile all the information that the judge will use in imposing that sentence. >> i think some of the questions that he'll be asked is, "do you understand that you may need to report to me on a regular basis? do you understand that you will

be prohibited from associating with anyone with a criminal record?" >> the officer will evaluate trump's level of remorse, his financial background, and mental state, and provide a report to a judge to help him determine the sentence that he will hand down to trump on july 11th. >> seth: let's make something clear. if a probation officer is basing their sentence guidelines on remorse, mental state, and character, and the recommendation is a day less than 1,000 years, donald trump is getting off easy. and if the probation officer meets with trump and their takeaway is "he seemed really sorry, super sharp, and an all around good person," that should be their last day of work. [ laughter ] trump should count himself lucky. for example, this seems like an easy question for a presidential nominee to answer. >> do you understand that you will be prohibited from associating with anyone with a criminal record? >> seth: but that's everyone he knows. [ light laughter ] telling donald trump he can't associate with anyone with a criminal record is like telling andy cohen he can only associate with fake housewives. [ laughter ]

what do you want him to do, make new, normal, non-criminal friends? how's he going to do that? join a pickleball league? "hey, there. i'm your new pickleball league partner. my name's donald. you're gonna have to cover most of the court. i'll cover this tiny part right here. also i can barely lift a paddle. here, i'll show you." [ light laughter ] >> ugh! ahh! oh! [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: they want me back, you guys. anything i said about the graphics department earlier in the show. [ laughter ] i take it all back. so, trump can't associate with anyone with a criminal record. you know who this is really bad news for? his family. now he's going to have to spend more time with them. [ laughter ] melania is probably so worried about this, she's going to knock over a liquor store in broad daylight just to have a rap sheet. "mel! mel, i know why you did what you did, and it's very hurtful to me. [ light laughter ] because now that you got arrested, we can't associate,

mel. who? who do you think i should associate with instead? stormy daniels? very funny, mel. [ laughter ] ha ha, mel. you and your classic sense of humor, mel." nothing in this probation interview will be good for donald trump. accord to the new york court system, the pre-sentence report is a chance for the defendant's lawyer to say good things about the defendant, like that the defendant is in a counseling program or has a steady job and takes care of an ailing family member. the pre-sentence interview is a chance for the defendant to try to make a good impression and explain why he or she deserves a lighter punishment. i have no empathy for donald trump's lawyers, but i do appreciate that that is not a light lift. i mean, he's not in counseling. he does not have a steady job. no one believes he would ever care for an ailing relative. although he'll probably try. "this is my son, poor little rudolph. [ laughter ] poor little rudy. poor little rudy. six years old but he has that weird aging disease from 'kimberly akimbo.' [ laughter ] so sad. and he hasn't been able to leave the house since the tragic shark electrocution. [ laughter ]

shark electrocution accident, it cost him his neck. we spent so much surgery on the neck, we can't afford to buy him new pants. he still wears his toddler khakis." [ laughter ] so, trump probably had to talk about all the criminal associates he has. he also probably had to discuss the three other indictments he's facing, all the other fines he's been hit with, not to mention the fact that he repeatedly badmouthed the entire process and has repeatedly threatened to get revenge, like in this recent interview with, for some ungodly reason, dr. phil. >> there are headlines out there that say when you win your second term, that you are going to make the people that have come after you pay. retribution and revenge. >> yeah. >> i think you have so much to do, you don't have time to get even. you only have time to get right. >> well, revenge does take time. i will say that. >> it does. >> and sometimes revenge can be justified. >> seth: so, he gets to meet with a probation officer and just pretend like he's a different guy?

[ light laughter ] also killer work from dr. phil here. >> well, revenge does take time. i will say that. >> it does. >> seth: "it does." [ laughter ] thanks, doc. [ laughter ] i'd say i can't believe this guy's a doctor, but the other guy was fully the president, so what the hell. everybody gets to call themselves whatever they want from now on. [ applause ] hey, everybody. hello, hello. i'm captain seth meyers of the uss [ bleep ] this. [ laughter ] generally speaking, i don't think probation officers respond well to the phrase, "sometimes revenge can be justified." i feel like after you say that the only correct response from a probation officer is, "i think i have what i need to make my recommendation. [ laughter ] lock up. throw away key." again, trump's getting all the benefits and protections of our system, especially when compared to those subject to racist mandatory minimums, who tend to get so much longer sentences for much less. all trump has to do is take accountability and express some remorse, but he can't even bring himself to do that. which is why he is now facing the very s real prospect of jail

time. >> well, the first thing they're going to do is look at what probation recommends in their report. they will go through that process with them and then they will come up with their recommendation. >> and the report will generate a recommendation? >> yes. >> another thing a judge looks at is comparators. so they look at other sentences that other like defendants have received. i looked at this. i co-authored a white paper for the brookings institution, and we looked at hundreds of other sentences. >> huh. coming out of new york? >> coming out of new york for the exact same crime. and always with a bump up to a felony in this case. and people get prison terms. not just, you know -- even first-time offenders. even, you know, for the same type of crime, they will get a prison term. >> seth: that's right. people actually get prison terms for this crime, even first-time offenders, in the same state. now, i have no idea if that

means trump will also go to jail. i'm certainly skeptical. but if he was anyone else who behaved the way he did, he probably would. and that is our two-tiered justice system at work. donald trump is likely not going to have to sleep on the bottom bunk chitchatting with his cell mate after lights out. "what are you in for, fish?" "well, it's a pretty boy story, falsifying business records to cover up a payoff to a p*rn star, lest the american people find out about my infidelity/weird penis in the days leading up to the election." [ laughter ] "that is a boring story." [ laughter ] so who knows if trump will go to jail. but for what it's worth, trump says he's totally fine with it. >> the judge could decide to say hey, house arrest, or even jail. >> it could, it could. >> how do you face what that could -- >> i'm okay with it. i don't know that the public would stand it. you know? i don't -- i'm not sure the public would stand for it. >> seth: i don't know. judging from how they reacted to your trial, no one would give a [ bleep ]. even your hardcore supporters couldn't be bothered to show up and protest for you. look at this supposed maga protest -- [ light laughter ] -- outside the courthouse. that was in manhattan. you can find more people at a duane reade at midnight. [ laughter and applause ] usually when there's this much space in manhattan, it means someone took a dump on a subway car. [ light laughter ]

there very much is a two-tiered justice system in this country, but donald trump is not a victim. he's a beneficiary. far too many non-violent first time offenders have been subjected to appalling prison sentences because of racist mandatory minimums. trump, on the other hand, has had every opportunity to avail himself of the safeguard protections of the criminal justice system, and yet his supporters are acting like the judge gave him two choices. >> do i stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do i jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? >> seth: this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ we'll be right back with julia louis-dreyfus. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks," be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. i'm a rusty old boat hitch, and i am barely hanging on... ha ha ha. and while we're still miles from the lake, i'm gonna launch this boat right here. see ya. [rusty creak sounds] ahoy! [traffic noises]

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sitting in on drums with us this week, he's a grammy award-winning musician, rock and roll hall of fame member, and his band, bon jovi just released their critically-acclaimed album, "forever." check out their career-spanning documentary "thank you, good night: the bon jovi story" on hulu. and head over to bonjovi.com for more info. from new jersey, tico torres is here. [ cheers and applause ] welcome to the show, tico. thank you for being here, buddy. >> thanks for having me. nice to be here in 8g. >> seth: our first guest tonight is an emmy- and peabody-winning actress you know from shows like "seinfeld," "the new adventures of old christine," and "veep." she stars in the film "tuesday," which is in select theaters now and everywhere june 14th. please welcome back to the show our friend, the one, the only, julia louis-dreyfus. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ]

>> seth: welcome back, friend. >> thank you, friend. it's good to be here. >> seth: we had a -- we had a time together last week. >> well, we did, seth. >> seth: we did. you were kind enough to agree to go day drinking with me. >> wasn't i? >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> and i have to tell you something. i'm not sure if i told you on the night. but the day before we did it, i very seriously considered pulling out of it. >> seth: yeah. you started to have -- were you -- just anxiety about how much drinking? >> yeah. [ laughter ] i mean -- [ laughter ] >> seth: that's a good reason though. i was -- then i don't take it personally, right? you were just going to pull out because of drinking -- >> it's not because of you. but i, you know, i'm watching more of these things and "what the hell?" and then, i was like, i don't want to be out of control. and you know, it was kind of -- i was -- i'm not kidding. i really was thinking, how could i do this without it being a problem? >> seth: and did you, in the end, reach a point where you were happy you did it? >> yes.

>> seth: okay, good. [ laughter ] this, i should note. this is like very early. so, i don't feel like this is not a true bounce of how bad it gets for me. [ light laughter ] like, you keep -- you stayed very in control. i made a terrible mistake early on. >> yes. would you like to tell what it is? >> seth: well, your drink of choice is a martini. >> yes. >> seth: so, we started with two martinis. >> yes, and you very cleverly called it a -- >> seth: a julia louie-dry martini. >> yes. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] and i chugged it. and i've never chugged a martini before. >> why would you chug a -- i was so shocked. >> seth: i don't know, because i love tv. [ laughter ] >> i'm telling you, it was so shocking. >> seth: it's a terrible way to start things. and you know what it is -- by the way, i'm saying this like it's a cautionary tale. no one out there is like, "i might do it." like no one -- [ laughter ] >> no. >> seth: no one's ever decided to chug a martini before. and no one's going to after. >> no. >> jimmy: but it's very hard to recover from. >> yeah. how many days did it take you to recover? >> seth: it took a couple of days. i will say -- i don't know. there's this -- the one -- it's

awful but it does bring me back to the days where i actually did this not for camera. but -- [ laughter ] but at like 4:00 in the morning, after we went day drinking, i like sat bolt upright. i was like, "oh, what did i do? what did i say?" [ laughter ] >> that's the thing. >> seth: yeah. >> that's the problem with the booze. >> seth: yeah. it does get to you that way. [ laughter ] you -- well, we -- all right. so, we both went to a midwestern college. we went to northwestern university. >> we did, indeed. >> seth: there was a lot of drinking. >> a lot of drinking. a lot -- i smoked a lot of weed when i was there. >> seth: in college, you were smoking weed? >> whoo! [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: yeah, i -- [ laughter ] >> did you not? did you abstain? >> seth: i didn't abstain, but it was never for me. >> yeah. it was very much for me in college. [ laughter ] but then i -- but now i can't. >> seth: you can't? >> no, i think i just -- i probably just smoked too much. i don't know. but my brain shifted. >> seth: do you think like people in college would say, "oh, yeah. she smokes a lot of weed." did you have a reputation for your weed smoking? >> i hope not. [ laughter ] i can tell you one thing. one night -- [ laughter ] i can't believe i'm saying this.

but one night i got so stoned -- when you were there, did they have the sandwich man? >> seth: no. >> okay. there was a guy that would drive around late at night, and he would sell sandwiches. so smart. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> and so, he would come around, like, 12:30 at night, and we -- you know, the entire dorm would come, you know, flooding out. and i was so, so stoned that i got this sandwich, and then i tried to pay campus security. [ laughter ] >> seth: and then did you act like it was a tip? like "you guys are doing a great job keeping us safe." [ laughter ] >> totally! but i can't go near that [ bleep ] anymore. i mean, yeah. i mean, like, even if i, like -- even if i were to take one of those little mini-things that you try to go to sleep with -- you know, little, what are they called? gummies or whatever. >> seth: right. >> forget it. my dreams are paranoid. i flip out. it's not great. >> seth: i agree. it was always for me, paranoia. like, everything slowed down in a way i didn't like.

>> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> seth: whereas what i love about drinking -- [ laughter ] 'cause when i'm drinking, i'm like, i think everything is great and everything i'm saying is super interesting. [ laughter ] >> amazing. >> seth: yeah, it's a good feeling. >> until 4:00 in the morning. [ laughter ] [ groaning ] >> seth: no! you -- we talked a little bit about this because you gave a northwestern commencement. >> i did. >> seth: we've both been, i think, lucky enough to do it. you had to do it the year after obama did it, and that's a tough one to follow. >> yeah, and i -- i thought i had done a pretty good job, right? >> seth: yeah. >> and i don't know if you saw, but on instagram recently, northwestern put out a compilation of all their commencement addresses. >> seth: uh-huh. >> guess who didn't make the cut? [ laughter ] what the hell? >> seth: really. >> yeah. >> seth: did i? >> yeah. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: they -- they were going to put you in, but they thought it promoted weed smoking. [ laughter ] >> just say no.

[ laughter ] >> seth: although you had a great -- i will say, because the two -- i went back, and you had done it recently when i did mine. and so did colbert. and those are the two i went back to watch. >> yeah. >> seth: because i thought it said -- i was like, "all right. this is the bar." >> uh-huh. and then you looked and you're like, "woah, this is a cinch." [ laughter ] "she sucked." >> seth: i was like, "oh, i'm going to make the 'best of.'" [ laughter ] you -- you had a great thing, though, because you pointed out that everybody there had accomplished something that you had not. >> that's right. they had graduated. [ laughter ] >> seth: but you -- literally one of the greatest why didn't you graduate stories of all time. >> yes. >> seth: you got hired for "snl" -- >> correct. >> seth: -- while you were still in college. >> that is correct. >> seth: i mean, nobody can deny that. [ cheers and applause ] i mean, it would have been -- i only wish the story was that you were like, "nah, i got to finish school." >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: i'll be here if you're looking next year. >> i need that degree. >> seth: we were also both -- which just had its 50th anniversary, "meow," which was the northwestern improv troupe. >> oh, yes. the best. >> seth: and there were other

people from -- i don't -- were there other "meow" people? i know brad was with you. did you start at "snl" together? >> yes. >> seth: okay, so it was your husband, brad. he was "meow." >> um, yes, he -- yes, he was. and paul barrosse, who was also, and gary kroeger. yes, we were all "meow." >> seth: and so, four college improvisers -- when i think about this. we've talked about it before. but four college improvisers showing up at "snl." i mean, i look back and i both love my college improv and i'm deeply embarrassed by it. >> sure. >> seth: but at least we weren't like on a television show. >> right, exactly. >> seth: did you think that you would bring your sort of improv chops? >> without question. i thought it was going to be all loose and we would all be thinking up ideas on our feet and that's how the show would work. and you'll notice, no one's laughing because they think the same. [ laughter ] but -- but that is not how the show works. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah, it is really not how the show works. >> it's so not how the show works. >> seth: yeah. the idea of like, "let's all get together collectively." i mean, even like -- my cast, we all liked one another.

but it was like, "or, maybe i'll just go in my office alone, and you guys go in your office alone, and we'll see you at the table." >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. >> and duke it out, yeah. >> seth: and duke it out. >> that's what happened. >> seth: i love and respect you, but i don't want to play zip, zap, zop or whatever. >> exactly. and they had us -- when we first arrived, they had us come to -- oh, god. all the writers and cast -- you don't know this story. they had us arrive and sit in that area where you do the table read. >> seth: yeah. >> and act out some of our sketches. >> seth: oh. >> can you imagine? >> seth: no. >> it was so not well received. >> seth: so, how -- [ laughter ] and, again, you probably went into it, like, nervous but also you'd just been hired. so, you thought -- >> we'd been hired. they loved us. we were hitting chicago. you know. >> seth: so, how long into it -- >> beep, beep-beep, bo-boop, bo-boop, bo-boop. brrp! [ laughter ] you know? >> seth: how long into it did you know it was a disaster? >> oh, like, 15 1/2 seconds. [ laughter ] it was, like, people like this -- [ laughter ] watching us. >> seth: i made the mistake too, which is because i got hired, i

assumed, "oh, i am good enough to be here because they hired me." >> right. >> seth: and so, i'll just do all -- i mean, they're just going to love -- and the minute you realize, like, "oh, what's that? bottom rung of the ladder?" [ light laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: and it is, like, some real grumpy faces. >> yeah. >> seth: but look at us, we did all right. >> look at -- we're here. it's all good. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: and you're going to stick around and we're going to talk about your wonderful new film. you guys, this is julia louis-dreyfus. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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it's the reality of the situation, isn't it? this is what parents do. they do what they have to do. okay? and it's good to be honest about that. so you need to look reality in the eye instead of just getting angry at me about it. >> are you being serious right now? >> seth: we're back with julia louis-dreyfus. that was a clip from "tuesday." [ cheers and applause ] this is a deeply moving, powerful film. it's very grounded. you play the mother of a terminally ill daughter, and it also has an incredibly fantastical element -- >> yes. >> seth: -- that is unlike anything i've seen in a film before, which is death is represented by a giant parrot. >> yeah, a sort of a fantastical macaw character. oh, good you have a picture. >> seth: yeah, just to give a

sense -- i feel like you need to see it to know what we're talking about. >> i know, it's wild isn't it? anyway, yeah. so it's this ma -- this magical reality is created in this film. and i play the mom. and she's very, very ill. and death comes to our door in the form of this macaw. and it's -- oh, and i should also preface by saying that i'm in total denial about my daughter's situation. and then the journey begins with our-- >> seth: so, you have conversations with the parrot about death. >> multiple, yeah. >> seth: and trying to get it -- trying to convince it to leave. >> oh, yes. i fight it. >> seth: you fight the parrot? >> i do. >> seth: cgi parrot? >> well, now, here's the thing. [ light laughter ] this character is actually

played by an amazing british actor named arinze kene, and he was there with us. he is a cast member with us on set for the entire film. and then what happened was -- and he -- when you hear the film -- when you watch the film, the voice of the parrot is actually arinze's voice. it is not computer generated in any way. it's quite remarkable what he does. but he really embodied it physically, the emotional life of death, as it were. and he -- and then the animators animated over him, and used everything he did to animate this macaw. so, it's really his performance we're watching. >> seth: i will say that -- it makes sense, but i would imagine especially with -- i get, like, in a certain superhero movie, you can work with, like, a tennis ball on a stick. >> yes. >> seth: that seems hard in a film like this -- >> exactly. >> seth: -- where it is so deeply acted and emotionally felt. >> correct. so that's why -- that's one of the many reasons we had -- i

mean, he's a proper character, and we really needed to work with an actor. >> seth: do you think -- i mean, because there's so much talking about death, which i feel like not a lot of people talk about. >> yeah. >> seth: they certainly don't talk about in this way. do you feel like it was -- do you think about it differently now? or was that something you already had deep-seated -- i don't know. >> love of? >> seth: do you emotionally -- were you a fan? [ light laughter ] >> well, you know, i mean, frankly, i've had -- i've lost people in my life that i was very close to. so there was -- there are certain -- oh, god, what could you say? i've -- i've lived through grief. so i was able to sort of bring that to bear in this film. and, you know, ultimately, i think this film -- i know this film has an optimistic and affirming ending to it. which, to a certain extent, or at least my interpretation of it, is that when you lose someone, you've lost them physically. but your relationship with them is still there. it's just shifted. and i think that's an interesting way to think about loss. >> seth: have you thought about

birds differently? [ light laughter ] >> birds scare the [ bleep ] out of me after this. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: have they always? >> no. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] did this -- be honest. be honest. >> all right. >> seth: when you were -- when you were smoking weed at northwestern, did you ever see this bird? [ laughter ] >> this is why i stopped smoking weed. [ laughter ] >> seth: that bird showed up and was like, "you got to stop smoking weed." [ laughter ] julia louis-dreyfus, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] "tuesday" is in select theaters now and everywhere june 14th. and tune in here tomorrow for julia and seth go day drinking. we'll be right back with theo james. [ cheers and applause ] theo james. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ i wanna s my friends at once ♪ ♪ [droids beeping] [loud indistinct chatter] ♪ [message received tone] ♪ ♪ i wanna see all my friends at once ♪ [find my chime] ♪

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is an emmy nominated actor you know from his work in shows such as "the white lotus" and "the time traveler's wife." he stars in "the gentleman," which is streaming now on netflix. let's take a look. >> assuming my father was receiving about 10% a year, which would seem fair. this place must be turning out 50 million a year. >> you're in the right ball park. >> and being that you said you have a substantial share of the market, one would assume substantial means half or more, that means this is a very small cog in a much larger machine. you must have dozens of places like this all over the country.

>> you know, your father never concerned himself with the workings of the wider operation. >> well, i'm very curious. >> seth: please welcome to the show theo james, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: welcome. >> thank you. thank you. >> seth: it is -- it is lovely to have you. >> thank you. >> seth: in new york city. are you happy to be here? >> very happy, yes. i love this city. i've kind of been here on and off with work, lived here a couple of times, and i've got some friends here. we're going to do some drinking -- >> seth: that's great. i went back to your dressing room -- >> -- and some kissing. >> seth: wait, what was that last one? >> we're going to do some kissing, as well. >> seth: kissing, okay. [ laughter ] >> but in a kind of tough, laddie way. >> seth: i hate -- i hate when i cut off someone right before they're like we're going to do some drinking and some kissing. [ laughter ] they seem lovely -- like lovely gentlemen backstage, so i would imagine wanting to lay one on them. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, exactly. >> seth: yeah. i was like, "when i left, i was like, i feel like i should have kissed those guys." [ laughter ] but that's nice that you can --

because again, right? it's a work trip. >> yeah. >> seth: so, you're away from your family. but it's justifiable. and then you take advantage of also being able to see some friends. >> exactly, exactly. do some kissing and some beers. [ laughter ] not feel guilty about being away from the family. >> seth: yeah, and when your wife is like, "did you do some kissing?" you're like, "yes, but only with my oldest friends." >> exactly. you've seen us kiss before, yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: i know i'm jumping back in time -- but it is your first time here. >> oh, yes, thank you >> seth: i do want to say how much i enjoyed your work on "white lotus." >> thank you! >> seth: what a delight that was. [ cheers and applause ] >> yeah, yeah. great show. >> seth: really cool. >> great show. and you chatted to all those guys. >> seth: yeah. >> well, some of them. yeah, yeah. lovely, lovely cast. you know, mike white, an amazing you know writer/director. it's funny. i was in l.a. a couple of weeks ago, and i save people in my phone quite generically. >> seth: right. >> so say, mike is mike and you know, dan is dan or whatever. >> seth: and you try to know very few people. [ laughter ]

>> yeah, exactly. >> seth: when you meet another mike, you're like, i can't do it. [ laughter ] >> to that point, i was -- i got a message from mike on my phone. he was like, "hey, man, i'm in town for a night. i'm going to be staying --" 'cause i live kind of on the west side. "i'm going to be staying in marina delray, do you want to get a beer or something?" i was like, "okay, season three, i guess, right?" >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> so, i tell my wife and i'm kind of chuckling to myself and i'm like, okay, mate, meet me here, blah, blah, blah. and anyway, i rock up to the place, i park my car, and someone is like, "theo!" and i turn around and it's my cousin, mike right? [ bleep ] [ laughter ] i was like "argh! damn it. i mean great to see you, but damn it." [ laughter ] >> seth: you immediately take out your phone out like "cousin" mike. save. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: this i -- i assume -- obviously the most incredible location, italy for "white lotus." >> yes, yes. lovely. >> seth: "the gentleman," beautiful manor. >> mm-hmm. >> seth: you actually filmed that in an actual manor. >> yeah, we filmed on the duke of beaufort's estate. such a beautiful estate. >> seth: okay, had you ever heard of this duke before you -- >> no, no, and i didn't really think that still existed in britain. you know, i kind of thought this was a vestige of another past.

i thought it was a kind of joke, if you know what i mean. >> seth: this is an active manor. >> it's an active manor. >> seth: wow. >> that has been passed down for 400 years. they own like most of wales and the place is kind of falling down a bit. but i think he -- he thought he was going to be getting "the crown," or "bridgerton." >> seth: yeah, when a tv show asks to use your manor -- >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. >> and the first day we started murdering people in chicken suits. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> he was like knocking on the door, "what the [ bleep ] is going on here?" [ laughter ] >> seth: that is really funny. i feel like they should have told him like, "we'd love to rent your manor for a tv show." he's like, "great, i love it. i know a lot of the royals, so if you need any back story." [ laughter ] they're like "no, no, no, no." this is guy ritchie, which might explain why people are getting murdered in chicken suits. that's very much his genre. when did you first become familiar with guy ritchie? >> he was big, formative, i was 16, "lock stock" came out. i was at school. we had his -- we had the album for the movie. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, back when albums

and you had cds and it was cool. and there were quotes in there. all the kids in school knew the quotes. it was -- it was formative in many ways. so, working with him was kind of bizarre in that way. and working with people who had been in "lock stock," like vinnie jones, it was kind of -- a little bizarre. >> seth: and when you first -- like -- was that a movie -- did anybody in england have an expectation what that was going to be? because i remember when i went and saw it, i didn't know much about it. obviously, i hadn't heard of guy ritchie and you know some of those actors, they were sort of all british character actors. >> they were, yeah. >> seth: and i just remember being so taken with him in the moment, like, "oh, i feel like this nothing i had ever seen before." >> no, i think he kind of created a little -- or recreated a subgenre and it exploded, you know? and he went from -- you know, they made that movie, "lock stock" for under a million i think, and it completely exploded. and then next one was "snatch." >> seth: yeah. >> and you know, brad pitt is in it and so you know it was stratospheric. so i think it was kind of mad to them. >> seth: you had a very humbling moment. and i again -- like, it must always be humbling when someone like guy ritchie or someone like mike white like reaches out.

but you went back to your old school to speak. which is a very kind thing to do. >> oh, i did, yeah. so, i got an email last week saying "would you like to come back to your school." and reminded me of the first time i had been in when i was 25. you get a message saying as an alumni, would you come and give advice to the kids. and yet, at 25, i'm like, "i don't know what [ bleep ] advice to give." >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> i'm still figuring it out myself. so, i was a little bit nervous. and i thought, okay, what am i going to do? you know? how -- how should i make an entrance? so i thought, "okay, i'll ride my motorcycle to my school." [ light laughter ] >> seth: very cool. >> i thought that would be cool, right? like, that's what a cool guy does. >> seth: no, absolutely. i -- if your high schools are anything like ours, we like -- they like -- we love watching older people show up on motorcycles. [ laughter ] >> that's so true. >> seth: everybody likes adults who try hard. [ laughter ] >> they're like, "what the [ bleep ] is this creep doing?" but like, no exactly, it served me right because i was like, that's cool. so, i'm driving to the school, and just a mile outside, the bike is like "dat, dat, dat,

dah --" [ light laughter ] breaks down. >> seth: is that normal? do you have a kind of motorcycle that breaks down often? >> no, well, actually i got a flat tire. [ bleep ] nail in it. anyway, i parked on the side of the road and had to call my old form tutor. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, i'm a 25-year-old man but i suddenly regress to a 13-year-old. >> seth: yeah. >> "hello, mr. watson, can you come and pick me up?" [ laughter ] so, he gets in his little micro and comes and picks me up. i have to drive all the way to school, and i come in not a very sexy entrance. and uh -- >> seth: so you went from a guy with a motorcycle to a guy who needed a ride? >> yeah. [ laughter ] basically, yeah. >> seth: they were like, "i was going to go into showbiz, but they can't even afford cars." [ laughter ] >> i know! and then we did it and it was a chat and i should have prepared something. and they -- you know, being honest, they seemed a bit bored. >> seth: was it like, a q&a. >> yeah, it was a q&a, but i should have really come up with something. and i said, "oh, thanks for coming in. that was great." and i said, "oh, they -- you know, they seemed to be interesting but not that interested." he said, "oh sorry, we had claire foy from "the crown" last week." [ laughter ] like, "damn it, [ bleep ]. they don't even know who i am." [ laughter ] >> seth: that's so funny. i do feel like they should have waited a week. >> yeah, i know! >> seth: like what school is this they get claire foy and then you a week later? air it out, you guys. congratulations on this show.

>> thank you so much. >> seth: thank you so much for being here. just a delight to have you. have a great night tonight. [ cheers and applause ] give those friends a kiss for me. >> i will. >> seth: theo james, everyone. "the gentleman" streaming now on netflix. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ at outback steakhouse you can get an 18oz bone-in ribeye, kingsland pasta, or sirloin & lobster mac, starting at $16.99. it's better than the actual outback... ...where the only food for miles is you...

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